Removing the Rubbish: Consensus, Causation, and Denial

global-warming-floodBy Lawrence Torcello

In the 17th century the philosopher John Locke, writing in admiration of the great scientific thinkers of his time, remarked that he found it “ambition enough to be employed as an under-laborer in clearing ground a little, and removing some of the rubbish, that lies in the way to knowledge.” Locke was understating his considerable contribution to the new empirical and experimental sciences [1]. Still, Locke’s observation captures an essential role philosophy plays in relation to science. A hallmark of good philosophy is the advancement of understanding through the rigorous critique and clarification of concepts. While philosophers aren’t necessarily better equipped to arrive at truth than others, they are often, by training, well-suited to detect muddled and fallacious thinking. We too often overlook the way that knowledge advances through the detection and exposition of errors — the clearing of rubbish — as much as through the discovery of facts. The fact of anthropogenic global warming, for instance, bears existential and ethical implications that require our immediate attention [2], yet misconceptions must be clarified in order for informed public discourse to advance. In what follows I address three common confusions that are often encountered in public and political discourse regarding climate change.

Confusion One: “Consensus has nothing to do with science”

This erroneous claim plays on the ambiguity of the term consensus. In popular parlance consensus often refers to a simple (or merely popular) agreement. In science, the term is appropriately used when a clear-cut majority of researchers recognize that converging lines of evidence confirm the same conclusion. That is precisely what is meant when we hear that there is overwhelming consensus among scientists regarding human activity as a cause of global warming [3]. Scientific consensus is not a matter of popular opinion. A scientific consensus represents broad acknowledgment among experts that a particular claim bears strong evidential support. Humanity’s collective store of knowledge is increased once a scientific consensus is reached.

It follows that if a consensus does not exist, the scientific questions under investigation remain unsettled. Individual researchers, teams of researchers, and peer-referees are all subject to error; it is all the more important for non-experts to recognize scientific consensus as evidence that a claim has been broadly vetted. It remains possible for a scientific consensus to be wrong, of course. People sometimes point to historical cases of mistaken findings, or unscrupulous scientists, in order to question the certainty of consensus, or reliability of science on a given issue. These critics overlook the fact that such errors were finally revealed and surmounted because of the very same scientific process of vetting and arriving at consensus which their narratives are meant to challenge.

Ambiguities in language can lead people to talk past one another. When people are unaware of a term’s technical usage or fail to specify how they are using a term, it creates an atmosphere ripe for misunderstanding and equivocation. We see confusion similar to that concerning the term “consensus” in the claim that evolution is “merely a theory.” Theory as the term is used in science differs from one of its most common usages, which means something closer to speculation or opinion. In modern science, a theory reliably describes reality in a way that is sustained by a broad body of evidence considered so strong, and so verifiable, that it is unlikely ever to be overturned. Indeed, a theory does not exist independently of an overwhelming scientific consensus.

Science is epistemically powerful because it is self-correcting, as opposed to self-sealing. This is how scientific consensus carries intellectual and experimental weight, and why it is responsible for non-experts to trust claims endorsed by scientific consensus.

Confusion Two: There is no “proof” that human activity causes global warming

Proof is a term best left to mathematics and formal logic. Every undergraduate student who studies philosophy (not to mention statistics!) will have heard some version of the mantra “correlation does not entail causation.” This is true, but far from the end of the story. David Hume, writing in the 18th century, made it clear that causal connections are not matters of mathematical certainty [4]. Simply put: for any possible causal relationship it remains logically possible for a different causal relationship, or none, to hold. The term “proof” is, and will remain, irrelevant to causal reasoning. The question regarding a scientific correlation isn’t one of proof, but rather, of statistically relevant patterns. Consequently, the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) translates the 95% confidence level that global warming is primarily caused by human activity as “extremely likely.” [5]

Understanding the limits of causal inference is equally useful in apprehending the relationship between climate change and extreme weather patterns. No one hurricane, blizzard, drought, or flood (and the list could go on) can be attributed directly and exclusively to global warming. But it nonetheless remains true that a warming earth exerts a discernible influence on patterns of extreme weather. To argue that no single weather event can be causally linked to global warming is like arguing that no specific criminal act can be causally linked to poverty. The red herring search for precise and irrefutable necessary connections is irrelevant to the larger pattern of statistical correlation and influence.

The relationship between CO2 production and global warming is as well established as the link between smoking and lung cancer [6]. Upon being diagnosed with lung cancer it would be silly to insist, before giving up smoking and pursuing a treatment plan, that one’s physicians identify the specific cigarette (or carton, or even year spent smoking) that caused the disease. Certainty is an epistemic impossibility when it comes to any inductive inference, including scientific inferences. Following Hume, this epistemological limitation has long been acknowledged; indeed many would say it has been understood philosophically since Hellenistic skepticism. In both philosophy and modern science, the acknowledgment of fallibility is a constructive move, separating authentic discovery from dogma. Responsible reasoning does not justify the rhetorical exploitation of uncertainty; advancement of scientific understanding can be granted despite the acknowledgment of fallibility. As such, to stubbornly require a “proof” that global warming is the result of human activity and that climate change influences patterns of extreme weather — given the ready preponderance of real evidence — merely reduces to an argument from ignorance.

Confusion Three: The terms denialist and denialism are forms of ad hominem (or inappropriately personal) attack against climate skeptics and their work

The term denier is often associated with those who claim the Holocaust was a hoax. It is considered an insulting term, and since sincere conversations should avoid offense, the argument goes, we should avoid using such terms. Yet denialism is a phenomenon of real academic interest, following recognizable patterns, and, in order to avoid confusions, it should be discussed responsibly with its appropriate label [7].

Established science might be denied for a number of reasons. Some people deny an established scientific claim because they embrace a religious doctrine to which they find the claim inimical. Others may deny an established scientific claim because they hope to challenge the epistemic privilege of science on philosophical grounds. Still others are motivated to reject science for financial or political reasons, or a vaguer sense of group affiliation with a political or cultural faction. When those who lack the scientific expertise relevant to a claim they are making deny the established science on the issue, they evoke the language and authority of science by demanding to be described as skeptics. Skepticism is not mere disbelief motivated by pessimism, cynicism, or political ideology. Skepticism has always entailed a philosophical investigation into the constraints on human knowledge, either in general or in a given area. The intellectually cautious nature of science reflects this philosophical lineage.

Science works through its skeptical methodology; this is the motor of the vetting process that can ultimately lead to consensus. We do not expect scientists doing field research to share exact methodologies with scientists working in laboratory settings, but all fields of science involve (ideally) rigorous applications of methodological skepticism. Skepticism is an essential component of the scientific process. When one who lacks relevant expertise denies a scientific consensus, and attacks scientists who support it, that person does not behave as a skeptic. It is to play at being a skeptic while refusing to acknowledge the legitimate fruits of skepticism. This form of denialism is accurately described as pseudo-skepticism; it is a common if not essential feature of pseudoscience [8]. Pseudo-skepticism and pseudoscience should both be properly understood as types of science denialism. Many an appropriate label can be used constructively or as ad hominem bludgeons; this alone is not a good reason to give up on appropriate labels.

The majority of people who are unsure of what to think about climate change are not denialists of climate science. But for committed denialists, skeptics is a misleading and inappropriate label [9]. The term skepticism is ill-suited to describe the behavior of those who obstinately deny the evidence for anthropogenic climate change — the term pseudo-skepticism is more accurate. Moreover, it is more appropriate ethically to challenge, rather than to ignore, the broader phenomena of science denialism [10]. Indeed, it is vital to clear this sort of rubbish, which muddles the public’s knowledge of scientific consensus on climate change. Doing so requires sustained clarity of concepts, the consistent use of language, and active rejection of the distractions staged by the loud minority of denialists. It is an effort well suited to both scientists and philosophers.

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Lawrence Torcello is Assistant Professor of Philosophy at the Rochester Institute of Technology, NY. He specializes in social and political philosophy, moral theory, and applied ethics. His current research interests focus on democratic theory, liberalism, and issues of climate justice. Recent work explores the moral implications of climate change denialism and other forms of science denial.

[1] Locke J., (1689) An Essay Concerning Human Understanding, Edited by Peter Nidditch (1979), “The Epistle to the Reader,” pp. 9-10 Oxford University Press.

[2] Torcello, L., Mann M.E., (2014) “Limiting global warming to 2°C: the philosophy and the science,” The Conversation US, Published online, Oct. 21.

[3] Cook, J., et al., (2013) “Quantifying the consensus on anthropogenic global warming in the scientific literature,” Environmental Research Letters, Vol. 8, No, 024024, 7 pages.

[4] Hume, D., (1748)  An Enquiry Concerning Human Understanding, edited by Peter Millican, (2008) Oxford University Press.

[5] IPCC AR5 (2013) Website.

[6] Fischer, D., (2014) “Climate Risks as Conclusive as Link between Smoking and Lung Cancer,” Scientific American, Published online: March, 19.

[7] Pigliucci, M., (2014) “The varieties of denialism,” Scientia Salon, Published online, Oct., 28.

[8] Torcello, L., (2012) “The Trouble with Pseudoskepticism,” Skeptical Inquirer, Vol. 36, No. 3, pp. 37-41.

[9] Deniers are not Skeptics, Skeptical Inquirer, 5 December 2014.

[10] Torcello, L., (2011) “The Ethics of Inquiry, Scientific Belief, and Public Discourse,” Public Affairs Quarterly, Vol. 25, No. 3, pp. 197-215.

103 thoughts on “Removing the Rubbish: Consensus, Causation, and Denial

  1. Hi Lawrence,

    In modern science, a theory reliably describes reality in a way that is sustained by a broad body of evidence considered so strong, and so verifiable, that it is unlikely ever to be overturned. Indeed, a theory does not exist independently of an overwhelming scientific consensus.

    Sorry, but I’m going to completely disagree here. In science “theory” means “explanation”, or less concisely: “set of connected ideas that attempt to model an aspect of the world”. You are right that “theory” does not connote “unproven” or “speculation”, but nor does it connote “strongly supported by evidence” or “mainstream consensus” — the term is neutral in that regard, it connotes neither.

    Thus one can indeed use the term “theory” about things that are overwhelmingly supported by evidence (e.g. Darwin’s theory of evolution), but also about things that are wildly speculative (e.g. “string theory”) or about things that are partially right but known to be inaccurate (e.g. Newton’s theory of gravity), or about things that are totally wrong and long abandoned (e.g. “phlogiston theory”).

    Proof is a term best left to mathematics and formal logic.

    Again, I’m going to disagree. The “everyday” use of the word “proof” relates to thresholds of doubt, where law courts commonly use either “balance of probability” or “beyond reasonable doubt”.

    When the man in the street asks about “proof” that human activity is causing global warming they are thinking in those terms, and are likely wondering whether it has been established “beyond reasonable doubt”.

    I fully agree that a reply to such concerns should be a probabilistic one, but I don’t agree with avoiding the term “proof”. For example I’d happy say that “yes it has been proven, beyond reasonable doubt, that cigarette smoking causes cancer”.

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  2. Unfortunately, the claim, “that there is overwhelming consensus among scientists regarding human activity as a cause of global warming” is erroneous, fallacious and, judging by the cited article (by Cook et al. which is notorious for its wilful if not mischievous misuse of statistics and poor methodology), deliberately so.
    I argue against the pseudo-scientific conjecture of anthropogenic global warming not because the world has seen insignificant warming for seventeen years, not because there is no proof of global warming, not because the alleged consensus of experts is non-existent, not because the propagandists of the conjecture seem to self-interested, hypocritical, parasitical Luddite advocates (who, for instance fly around the world in luxury whilst tell us not to fly around the world in luxury), not because the far-fetched predictions of the conjectures proponents and hierophants are so wrong-headed, but because the arguments in favour of the conjecture are flawed and incoherent.
    The assertion that “The relationship between CO2 production and global warming is as well established as the link between smoking and lung cancer” is a silly and seemingly deliberate lie.

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  3. It seems there’s a little sophistry in this line of thinking… “People sometimes point to historical cases of mistaken findings, or unscrupulous scientists, in order to question the certainty of consensus, or reliability of science on a given issue. These critics overlook the fact that such errors were finally revealed and surmounted because of the very same scientific process of vetting and arriving at consensus which their narratives are meant to challenge.”

    Of course all *known* such errors are, well, known. The real question is, are there any such consensuses today that have yet to be revealed as erroneous but are in fact wrong.

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  4. A small technical detail:

    “The relationship between CO2 production and global warming is as well established as the link between smoking and lung cancer”

    Lung cancer and smoking is an unsuitable analogue for CO2 and temperature. Among other things, there is a very consistent dose response relationship between smoking and cancer; more smoking (in terms of quantity and duration) is strongly associated with a greater risk of cancer. The same cannot be said about CO2, for which there is almost certainly a non-monotonic relationship between quantity of CO2 in the atmosphere and the global climate. At various points in the CO2 temperature relationship we see changes in the magnitude and sign of the association, in large part because of the interactions between other parts of the climate system (including clouds, surface albedo and so on) and because there are considerable regional variations (cooling in some places, warming in others).

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  5. Hi Lawrence,

    Good article – I imagine you will get mostly agreement on it, and certainly from me. I had previously been unwilling to use the terms denier and denialist because of the Holocaust link. But I think it is probably silly to lock away a word because of the way it has been used in the past.

    This is just a little muddied when people make that link specific, as Richard Dawkins does in the introduction to “The Greatest Show on Earth” between evolution deniers and Holocaust deniers. This is not, I think, useful.

    Your mention of consensus has a slightly bitter resonance here in Australia. The Government, who have been busy slashing money out of science and making many scientists redundant, has found $4 million to give to Bjorn Lomborg to set up a “Climate Consensus Centre” in the University of Western Australia. Lomborg’s position on climate change is anything but the consensus. This has been a subject of bewilderment and anger in the science community here.

    I had also been thinking recently about the strange case of Bill Maher. Here is a man with anti vaccination views that would see him called pseudo scientific and a denialist if he was anybody else.

    And yet he seems to command respect of the very people who speak out against pseudo science and denialism, even as he doubles down on his anti vax views.

    He is awarded the “Richard Dawkins Award” (which, although not directly controlled by Dawkins was personally approved by him). He is also on the advisory board of Sam Harris’s “Project Reason”. Were this just Harris I would not pay much attention. But happy to serve on that board alongside him are such figures as Steven Weinberg, Steven Pinker, Daniel Dennett and others http://www.project-reason.org/about/advisory_board/

    Well, not everybody is in step with this respectful position. Skeptical Inquirer and ScienceBlogs are happy to call him a wing nut. http://scienceblogs.com/insolence/2015/01/19/bill-maher-still-an-antivaccine-wingnut-after-all-these-years/#.VL1kaMW7A3U.twitter

    I was wondering if others here would regard him a denialist, peddlar of pseudo science , wing nut or nut job.

    Does anyone else consider that those I have named above might merit just a soupcon of criticism for lending credibility to him, especially in these times when falling vaccination rates pose a serious public health problem?

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  6. On climate change I find it difficult to reconcile the idea that human activity makes no difference with non-linear dynamics and the idea that a butterfly can change the weather.(if not the climate). A few billion motor vehicles and assorted machines and a few million power plants and assorted factories will not cause climate change? It’s implausible. But proof in a mathematical sense would be difficult.

    I liked the article, and perhaps it shows why it pays to be a bit philosophical about science.

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  7. Deadman,

    thank you for a perfect example of ignorant and uncivil comment. We let it pass as an example for our readership of just how crazy climate change denialists really are. Thanks for making that point right at the beginning, and so clearly too!

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  8. I enjoyed this article. I agree that differences in the scientific and colloquial usage of words like “theory” and “consensus” are a large source of confusion in the public understanding of science. I’ve experienced this first hand when discussing evolutionary theory, for example. It also demonstrates why some level of philosophical literacy is an asset for the working scientist, if only for the purposes of conceptual clarification as was mentioned in the article.

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  9. I would have liked to hear more about what constitutes a scientific consensus. As this is written, I don’t know that I could distinguish a consensus from a bandwagon. Or is the author suggesting that there can’t be bandwagons in science?

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  10. Hi Lawrence,

    Nice article. I don’t have too much to say on it other than that I largely agree with it and enjoyed reading it.

    Hi Coel,

    Well said on your point about theory. I wanted to make the same point myself, though I know it is controversial. It has become so standard to respond to the “it’s only a theory” argument from creationists with the line that a theory is well established that we forget that this doesn’t match up too well with actual usage, as described by you.

    A side benefit of defining it as you have is that it is pretty continuous with the usage of the term in other fields such as mathematics and music.

    Hi Robin,

    I for one am with you on your comments on Bill Maher and those who lend him undeserved legitimacy.

    Hi PeterJ,

    While obviously I agree with your conclusion that anthropogenic climate change is a reality, I think your argument is rather weak.

    The comparison to butterflies is not apt because climate and weather are entirely different. Butterflies (and most species) presumably make no appreciable difference at all to the climate, despite the fact that they might influence the weather. This is because weather is chaotic but climate is relatively stable.

    Despite the fact that it seems obvious to you, I don’t personally feel that there is any prima facie reason to suppose that anthropogenic climate change is necessarily possible. There are a number of systems in play which can heighten or dampen the effects of global warming. Without evidence and deep understanding, we are as likely to be looking at a negative feedback loop as a positive one. For example, an increase in the amount of carbon dioxide in the atmosphere might make it easier for plants to grow, which might cause more vegetation and algae to grow and so reduce the amount of carbon dioxide in the atmosphere to the point where we are back where we started.

    We know now that there is in fact a net positive feedback loop, where the effects of our industry are in fact magnified by other systems in nature, and so anthropogenic climate change is happening. But it was not always obvious that this would prove to be the case.

    Hi Aravis,

    > As this is written, I don’t know that I could distinguish a consensus from a bandwagon.

    I think the two are quite different. A consensus is as the author has described it, a view which has been well established by multiple lines of evidence so that experts agree it must be pretty close to the truth.

    A bandwagon to me connotes more of a shift in the popularity of certain hypotheses or research topics, such as bioinformatics or string theory or many world interpretations or what have you. The focus of a bandwagon, is in my mind, not something established to be true but something seen as interesting or ‘sexy’ to researchers and funding bodies.

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  11. noiwiy says:
    “Lung cancer and smoking is an unsuitable analogue for CO2 and temperature.”

    Actually, you might want to rethink your opinion. If you have not already done so, you might study the IPCC reports (1990, 1995, 2001, 2007, 2013 – WG I – Physical Basis) and the Surgeon General Reports, at least the 2014 50th anniversary, since Chapters 2 and 4 givea good history of improvements in understanding.

    It would also help to talk regularly to experts in both areas, or watch Steven Chu’s talk where he uses the analogy.

    It’s a *very* good analogue for the science if you understand the different kinds of variability.
    Climate is at least constrained by physics, like conservation of energy.
    Humans vary way more: try asking the best medical researchers in the world to examine a 12-year-old and tell you:
    a) Will they get addicted to nicotine, and if so which of the trajectories will they follow?
    b) Will they die of tobacco-related disease, and if so, which one?
    (For a given person, there may be a more or less monotonic relationship between smoking and lung cancer … but the variations among humans swamps that … which means one has to rely on population statistics.
    Many chemicals in smoke have been found to be carcinogens statistically without understanding the exact biochemical reasons.

    Of course, the analogy extends to pseudo-skepticism of the strong consensus on either climate of tobacco, which have a pecutiarly-close relationship.

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  12. I agree with the points made, and I believe most of the readers of this site will as well. I would have liked to see more of a prescription for solving the problem, though. Clearing the rubbish is an excellent goal, but I don’t think most of the rubbish is in the scientific community. Most of it is in the political community and I don’t think clarifying the proper scientific use of terms like consensus will help with the political rubbish. I think looking to medicine would be a good way. When you go to your doctor, the doctor doesn’t say, “There’s a broad scientific consensus that continued smoking will lead to a 62% increase in the odds of you getting lung cancer later in life.” (I’m completely making up that number.) Your doctor says, “Quit smoking now or you will get very sick and maybe die.” The doctor isn’t lying, she just knows her audience. Climate scientists ought to do the same.

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  13. Deadman should be congratulated on fitting in so many debunked talking points into one post.

    As for the Cook et al paper, why do several other past papers using different methodologies by different people come up with the same number? All Cook et al did was confirm what other papers had already shown–they just used a larger sample size, improved methodologies, and outside author ratings (which hadn’t been done before).

    An even better question is, in the past 11 years since the original Oreskes work why hasn’t anyone published their own research showing that the 97% consensus in the literature doesn’t exist?

    They may claim that is because only pro-AGW research is published so there’s no point. They would have a valid point if they were claiming the 97% figure is accurate, but doesn’t reflect the views of 97% of the scientists.

    However, they are claiming the 97% figure itself is wrong; they claim that 97% of the papers do NOT support AGW. Simple solution then is do the same literature search and show that 97% of the papers don’t support AGW.

    I strongly suspect they’ve already done their own search of the literature and found the figure is accurate. Since that is not the answer they were looking for, they didn’t bother publishing it.

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  14. I think the two are quite different. A consensus is as the author has described it, a view which has been well established by multiple lines of evidence so that experts agree it must be pretty close to the truth.

    A bandwagon to me connotes more of a shift in the popularity of certain hypotheses or research topics, such as bioinformatics or string theory or many world interpretations or what have you. The focus of a bandwagon, is in my mind, not something established to be true but something seen as interesting or ‘sexy’ to researchers and funding bodies.
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    I never said that the two weren’t different. What I said was that I wouldn’t be able to differentiate the two on the basis of what the author said. I still cannot, and your amendation does not help. The people *on* the various scientific bandwagons we’ve seen over the decades think that the bandwagon they are on *is* well-evidenced. I highly doubt that their commitments are due to a perception of “sexiness” or other aesthetic virtues.

    The suspicious person inside of me might wonder whether a bandwagon is simply what one calls a consensus, after it has been shown to be false.

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  15. Thanks for this interesting article. I agree that the term denialism is justified for those who still reject human-caused climate change, simply because the patterns of thought and argument encountered so clearly resemble those in other instances of denialism; including the highly selective use of only those data and arguments that support the denial, and the use of conspiracy theories to exclude any evidence too embarrassing to the denialist’s case.

    You touch on the question; how should non-scientists or non-specialist in the relevant area of science, reach a judgement about highly charged issue?

    For some years after the threat of climate change began to be discussed publicly, I held back from accepting that it was definitely confirmed for practical purposes. This was precisely because I was aware that I had an ideological bias in favour of such acceptance, while a significant number of legitimate specialists in climate science still questioned the evidence on grounds that I didn’t feel qualified to assess for myself. I read some of the technical literature, but I found that there were some questions where the devil was in a level of detail that I couldn’t reach.

    Of course, I could have studied climate science to a professional level, in principle; in that sense, science is open to all. But then there were a series of other topics of the same kind; the current debate about whether former opponents of nuclear power should change their positions in the light of climate change; or the balance of medical, social, economic and political costs and benefit from genetically modified organisms, and so on.

    I can’t see how the lay public can possibly evaluate such issues without using the concept of consensus in the sense that you use it. Yet; surely there have been examples of ideologically driven consensuses in the past, for example in the area of defining and measuring intelligence(s). Is there any principled way to distinguish the valid consensus from one like that driven by social and ideological biases? From what I’ve read, the early critics of class, gender and ethnic bias over intelligence didn’t generally use the denialist patterns of arguments; but how obvious was that to members of the mainstream or the uncommitted at the time?

    Is there more that scientists, philosophers and popularisers could do to help the genuinely doubtful construct a reliable framework to match their beliefs to the evidence?

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  16. If someone doubts the strength if consensus on AGW, there are some easy ways to test it beyond actually studying the litersture.

    Every December, the American Geophysical Union has a big merting at Moscone Center in San Francisco. In 2014, about 24,000 attended. This covers many areas besides clinate science, but there are lots of sessions related to climate science.
    Attend such sessions and at end ask “i want to talk to researchers who reject the idea of human cause of global warming? Could you put up your hands?”
    If that would feel stressful, walk the posters and ask their creatirs one-on-one. Also, ask the grad students about their cushy lifestyles and field work in comfy vacation spots. 🙂

    Likewise, visit the exhibition booths of NASA, NOAA, etc and ask them.

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  17. Glotzerg: how often do you talk to climate scientists?

    Some are pretty blunt .. And
    A) Are pilloried as “alarmists”
    B) are among the 17 threatened by Senator Inhofe with prosecution
    C) Get attacked by OpEds in Wall St Journal
    D) Get hit by ill-informed letter-writing campaigns to demand they get fired
    E) Get endless FOIA fishing expeditions to waste their time
    F) Get chased for years by VA Attorney General
    G) Get eviscerated rat left on doorstep
    H) Get email address stuck on blogs as signal for hate mail, whuch comes…. Like ones starting “Nazi bitch whore climatebecile” with mention of child and guillotine.

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  18. Hi Aravis,

    > I never said that the two weren’t different

    And I never said you said they weren’t different! I just wanted to explain what I see as the difference.

    > What I said was that I wouldn’t be able to differentiate the two on the basis of what the author said.

    I’m a little confused by your point, because the point of the article is not to differentiate bandwagons from consensus. I mean, he didn’t explain the difference between consensus and garden gnomes either, so I don’t see much reason to read too much into the fact that nothing was said about bandwagons. Rather I see the article as underscoring that consensus-building is an important part of science and that it is usually unwise to doubt the consensus without very good reason.

    > The people *on* the various scientific bandwagons we’ve seen over the decades think that the bandwagon they are on *is* well-evidenced.

    Well, not according to my definition.

    I don’t think the people on the String Theory bandwagon ever thought their field was particularly well-evidenced. Neither do the people now jumping on the inflation or Many Worlds Interpretation bandwagon (yours truly included). Instead, people on bandwagons (such as myself) think that certain topics are promising avenues of research and that certain views are plausible. They may think that certain claims are likely to be true, but they don’t typically believe that they have reached the level of evidential support we need for consensus.

    > I highly doubt that their commitments are due to a perception of “sexiness” or other aesthetic virtues.

    It depends on what you mean by ‘commitment’. Brian Greene has, we might say, committed his life to the study of String Theory, but he is not committed to String Theory being true. He freely admits it may all end up being wrong. If “sexiness” has anything to do with commitment here it is only in the former sense having invested a lot of time or money in something.

    People like Greene have chosen to invest their time in this way not necessarily because they are convinced that a particular hypothesis is extremely well-evidenced but by a feeling that a particular field is promising or interesting or (unfortunately) fashionable.

    > The suspicious person inside of me might wonder whether a bandwagon is simply what one calls a consensus, after it has been shown to be false.

    I don’t think so. There have been consensuses in the past which were false, and it is almost certainly true that there are matters of consensus now which are false.

    For instance, it was a matter of consensus up until relatively recently that the expansion of the universe must be decelerating, a view which turned out to be false. I wouldn’t call this view a bandwagon, and so I would draw a distinction between bandwagons (a growth in popularity of a certain research topic which may be predicated on true or false assumptions) and consensus (a prevailing well-evidenced view which can be true or false).

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  19. Hi Coel,

    “Sorry, but I’m going to completely disagree here. In science “theory” means “explanation”, or less concisely: “set of connected ideas that attempt to model an aspect of the world”. You are right that “theory” does not connote “unproven” or “speculation”, but nor does it connote “strongly supported by evidence” or “mainstream consensus” — the term is neutral in that regard, it connotes neither.

    Thus one can indeed use the term “theory” about things that are overwhelmingly supported by evidence (e.g. Darwin’s theory of evolution), but also about things that are wildly speculative (e.g. “string theory”) or about things that are partially right but known to be inaccurate (e.g. Newton’s theory of gravity), or about things that are totally wrong and long abandoned (e.g. “phlogiston theory”).”

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    I do agree with you that the term theory is used loosely even among scientists such that most of us might have initial pushback against the OP’s definition of “theory.” You point out some excellent cases of this (string theory, etc.).

    So to make a constructive point in light of DM’s practical concern about the loose use of the word “theory” making arguments from “it’s only a theory” seem like they should be taken seriously, the scientific community really ought to stick to what I think the traditional definitions are for “theory” and “hypothesis.”

    a “Hypothesis” was originally taken to be just what you mentioned – a proposed explanation which is awaiting confirmation, falsification, evidence, consensus, etc. A “Theory”, on the other hand, was traditionally used to denote what the OP was getting at – an explanation that there is an overwhelming body of support for.

    I think the scientific community has come to use these words loosely causing us to lose sight of this traditional and important distinction. So ultimately I at least think that, even if scientists use “theory” to simply mean “hypothesis,” they ought to begin using “theory” to denote what the OP was getting at, and “hypothesis” to denote mere proposed explanation.

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  20. There is an interesting intellectual process at work here and ironic that climate should be the subject used as an example(Though the intent seems to be the opposite, to use the commentary on consensus to make a point about climate change.)

    When we don’t have a direct linear connection to relate cause to effect, it becomes more of an environmental relationship, where the range of output from the cause is correlated to the range of input into the effect, as well as compared to all other potential factors and the various feedback loops occurring. While the left, rational hemisphere of the brain seeks out that linear connection from one to the other, the right, emotional, intuitive side is more of a thermostat, or scale, weighing the masses of argument and drawing on prior knowledge to reach conclusions not completely apparent.

    While this is a completely necessary function in the natural world, where speed of decision making can be more important than accuracy, it does compete with that logical desire for complete clarity.

    To the moderators, for whom clarity of argument seems to be of prime importance, sometimes there can be be value in drawing out deeper meaning from even points less focused on precise detail and more of an atmospheric and contextual view. To be objective requires some sense of context.

    As for global warming, those ice capes are melting and the resulting cooler air does spread over the planet. For the time being.

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  21. Hi Aravis,

    As this is written, I don¡¯t know that I could distinguish a [scientific] consensus from a bandwagon.

    The “gold standard” for distinguishing that is whether the ideas have demonstrated predictive power. If there have been several iterations where a theory has been used to predict things not already known, and then have the predictions verified, then it’s a sign of a secure consensus. (The point being that it’s much harder to kid yourself when you’re predicting things you don’t already know.)

    This is possible for the outsider to assess even if they are not an expert, for example the prediction of the Higgs Boson from the “Standard Model” of particle physics, followed by its discovery, is an indication that the Standard Model is not just a bandwagon.

    If a set of ideas is too young for such iterations to have occurred, or if such predictions and verifications are impractical, then bandwagons are more likely and it is harder for the outsider (or the insider) to judge. One could look for a consilience of disparate lines of evidence, but that alone is not as good as predictive power.

    One area which is vulnerable to bandwagons is dietary advice, which has varied quite a bit over decades. The problem here is partly that humans are very complicated, but also that most of the controlled experiments can’t be done because they’re unethical.

    The people *on* the various scientific bandwagons we’ve seen over the decades think that the bandwagon they are on *is* well-evidenced.

    I don’t think that bandwagons are all that common in the physical sciences. By “bandwagons” I mean a major chunk of the mainstream going off in the wrong direction and thinking they had good evidence to support them. That would be different from uncertainty at the cutting edge, or ongoing controversy where the evidence is unclear, or less-good ideas being replaced by better ones, or good ideas taking time to get established, which are all rather different.

    The topic of dietary advice is one possible example, though even there it is to quite an extent a matter of government agencies and the media presenting things in an over-simplified and over-certain way.

    Hi Dan,

    I think the scientific community has come to use these words loosely causing us to lose sight of this traditional and important distinction.

    Is it actually true that the word “theory” originally meant what you say? I’m genuinely asking, since I’ve never looked into the history of the word, though my impression is that physical scientists have never cared much about this sort of semantics. Whatever the origins, I’d suggest that the usage as I described is much too widespread in science to change it easily.

    My preference is to say to the public that the word “theory” in science simply means “explanation”. And thus evolution being “only a theory” is defused to “it’s only an explanation”, to which the reply is “Only?”.

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  22. Hi Coel,

    “Is it actually true that the word “theory” originally meant what you say? I’m genuinely asking, since I’ve never looked into the history of the word, though my impression is that physical scientists have never cared much about this sort of semantics. Whatever the origins, I’d suggest that the usage as I described is much too widespread in science to change it easily.

    My preference is to say to the public that the word “theory” in science simply means “explanation”. And thus evolution being “only a theory” is defused to “it’s only an explanation”, to which the reply is “Only?””
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    Fair enough, I actually don’t want to say I am 100% certain about the traditional definitions. I do think that the traditional definitions are as I outlined them, but I can’t be certain. So to make a weaker claim – perhaps the way I suggested is how we ought to begin using the terms. I agree it would be tough to change, but clearly some terminological revisions need to be made in order to prevent silly rhetorical moves like what the OP pointed out can happen.

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  23. DM: This is all getting rather off the point I was trying to make.

    The question is what sort of attitude the public should take towards the things told to them by scientists. Things, presumably, that most members of the public are not qualified to verify.

    The idea is supposed to be that the public should accept those things told to them by scientists, where there is a consensus.

    I presume, however, that we would agree that the mere existence of a scientific bandwagon is not sufficient reason for the public to accept the relevant statements.

    Thus, it is essential that we be able to distinguish a bandwagon from a consensus. My suspicion, however, is that one cannot, until after the fact, and this means that consensus alone is not a sufficient reason for public acceptance of a particular proposition. All the examples that you give of consensuses that turned out to be false make this problem worse, not better.

    One of the things that strikes me as interesting about this is that many of the people who say that consensus among scientists provides sufficient reason for a layperson to accept a certain proposition are the same people who have denied the relevance of peer review to the credibility of scientific statements. (I’ve actually had this said to me, on numerous occasions, here at Scientia.) But the logic behind peer review — and why we require it — *is* essentially the logic of the consensus of relevant experts.

    I have no particular investment in climate change — the issue really doesn’t interest me at all — but I do find the question about the relevant role of consensus to be *really* interesting and important, because increasingly, more and more of the important issues we are confronting, in the public policy arena, are ones for which substantial expertise is necessary to understand. We thus rely more and more on the testimony of experts, and this raises the question of the epistemic *role* that such testimony plays, which is what the article is about.

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  24. Rajendra Pachauri said that “the protection of Planet Earth, the survival of all species and sustainability of our ecosystems is more than a mission. It is my religion and my dharma.” Pachauri was not just any climate scientist but the Chairman of the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) for 13 years. This kind of explicit religiofication of climate science is very difficult for many on the political left to see because it is consistent with what they believe. It is dismissed as a one-off moment of excess or simply not inconsistent with the evidence. The philosopher of biology, Michael Ruse, wrote an excellent book, The Gaia Hypothesis, showing the tendency of two famous scientists, James Lovelock and Lynn Margulis, to transgress the demarcation line and sanctify the planet as a kind of goddess.

    Michael Shermer, a libertarian, was a “climate skeptic” (if I may use that word) because from the libertarian perspective one has a natural disinclination for large government solutions. Until he wasn’t. He said:
    “Al Gore delivered the single finest summation of the evidence for global warming I have ever heard, based on the 2006 documentary film about his work in this area, An Inconvenient Truth. Because we are primates with such visually dominant sensory systems, we need to see the evidence to believe it, and the striking visuals of countless graphs and charts, and especially the before-and-after photographs showing the disappearance of glaciers around the world, shocked me viscerally and knocked me out of my skepticism.”
    I would suggest that it was not a movie that changed his mind but a relentless onslaught from a community that labels you a denier if you don’t tow the line.

    Although I accept the fact that the planet is warming and man is responsible for it, the solutions proposed and the nature of the discussions have a political/theological spirit that is difficult to ignore.

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  25. Hi Aravis,

    > The question is what sort of attitude the public should take towards the things told to them by scientists. Things, presumably, that most members of the public are not qualified to verify.

    Sure.

    While the consensus is not guaranteed to be true, the existence of an expert consensus in favour of a certain proposition constitutes sufficient justification for a layperson in my view. The point is not that consensus is always correct, but that when weighing the claims of the consensus against an alternative view, particularly when that view is regarded as thoroughly discredited by the consensus, you are far more likely to be correct if you go along with the consensus.

    > Thus, it is essential that we be able to distinguish a bandwagon from a consensus.

    Now we’re veering back to the other point, where I disagree with you on what a consensus is and what a bandwagon is. If I interpret you to mean that a bandwagon is simply a false consensus, then while it might be very desirable that the public be able to tell the difference it is unfortunately totally unrealistic to expect that this would ever be possible. Accepting the consensus is the best advice I can give. It’s not guaranteed to give you the right answers 100% of the time.

    Hi Dan,

    > even if scientists use “theory” to simply mean “hypothesis,”

    “Theory” and “hypothesis” are not synonymous. A hypothesis is a proposition of uncertain truth. A theory is a well-developed model intended to describe some aspect of reality. A theory can be predicated on a set of hypotheses. We might also have the hypothesis that a given theory does in fact describe reality.

    > DM’s practical concern about the loose use of the word “theory” making arguments from “it’s only a theory” seem like they should be taken seriously

    No, my concern is that the standard objection to this argument is factually incorrect — theories are not always well-evidenced.

    > some terminological revisions need to be made in order to prevent silly rhetorical moves

    I feel that if we all took your suggestion it wouldn’t change much as long as “theory” and “hypothesis” remain synonymous in idiomatic English.

    My preference would be to instead change the standard response from “All scientific theories are established and well-evidenced” to “So are all of the best supported ideas in science, evolution among them”. It’s probably not going to be any more effective at convincing anybody, but at least it’s more correct. Coel’s move of equating theory and explanation is also pretty good.

    I prefer this approach because it makes the meaning of the term pretty universal across disciplines. If a theory is a well-thought out body of understanding, then scientific theories and mathematical theory and economic theories are all the same kind of thing in different contexts. This congruence is especially helpful in areas where the borders begin to blur. String theory is for instance as much a mathematical theory as it is a scientific one.

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  26. Hi DM,

    ““Theory” and “hypothesis” are not synonymous. A hypothesis is a proposition of uncertain truth. A theory is a well-developed model intended to describe some aspect of reality. A theory can be predicated on a set of hypotheses. We might also have the hypothesis that a given theory does in fact describe reality.”
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    Don’t think I would really disagree, nor would my previous statements (so long as one were to hash them out well enough).

    “No, my concern is that the standard objection to this argument is factually incorrect — theories are not always well-evidenced.”
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    Once again, don’t think I would really disagree according to the standard usage in the scientific community.
    Also apologies, I was more-so using your comment as a pretext to bring up the “its only a theory” objection. Should have been clearer about that.

    “I feel that if we all took your suggestion it wouldn’t change much as long as “theory” and “hypothesis” remain synonymous in idiomatic English.”
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    I suppose I was hoping that, as sometimes does happen, revision in language use in the scientific community would soak into how native speakers use certain scientific terms. Perhaps this is too optimistic. But at any rate it would definitely be good to have terminological agreement among scientists so that, when a denier uses something like the “its only a theory” argument, you don’t see scientists disagreeing over what a “theory” is. This is, I think, bad publicity even though it may be perfectly innocuous.

    Anyway these are minor points. All in all, I really enjoyed and basically agree with everything written in the OP. Especially enjoyed the discussion on the abuse of the term “skeptic.” Certainly something I have observed frequently but never put explicitly into words.

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  27. Coel wrote:

    The “gold standard” for distinguishing that is whether the ideas have demonstrated predictive power. If there have been several iterations where a theory has been used to predict things not already known, and then have the predictions verified, then it’s a sign of a secure consensus.

    If a set of ideas is too young for such iterations to have occurred, or if such predictions and verifications are impractical, then bandwagons are more likely and it is harder for the outsider (or the insider) to judge. One could look for a consilience of disparate lines of evidence, but that alone is not as good as predictive power.

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    This all sounds about right to me. And it suggests that beyond consensus among experts, the science in question must be sufficiently mature for that consensus to be meaningful and reliable. This, then, is the sense in which consensus *alone* is not enough. (This was something I suggested to Massimo in our BHTV dialogue on the public’s perception of academics, towards the end, when we talked about expert testimony.)

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    One area which is vulnerable to bandwagons is dietary advice, which has varied quite a bit over decades. The problem here is partly that humans are very complicated, but also that most of the controlled experiments can’t be done because they’re unethical.

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    You read my mind. Consensus among experts on diet was one that I was thinking of. I can remember the consensus in the 70s, the 80s, and they were very different — sometimes diametrically opposed — to the consensus now. Given your point about the kind of studies and experimentation we can do, in certain areas, would you say that there are certain sciences where we should *never* simply trust the consensus among experts, because the nature of the science is such that the consensus may very likely turn out not to be reliable?

    I very much appreciate your answers.

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  28. I suppose that a pragmatist take on this — beyond fixing definitions — would be evaluating actions (or non-actions) based on hypotheses|models|theories. What policies that are adopted relative to the validity of global warming models would be measured in terms of helping or hurting future life on this planet.

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  29. John Mashey,

    To answer your first question, probably never (perhaps I’ve inadvertently talked to one at the grocery store or something). That’s beside the point.

    That rest of your response is kind of backing up my point. Explaining the science to these people is not going to change their minds, but these people are also not the general public. Politicians become climate change denialists because they are beholden to special interests that want to keep the status quo. The only way to change their minds would be to 1. get rid of the special interests or 2. get the electorate to vote them out of office. The problem is that most of the electorate (I’m including myself in this) is not at all prepared to weigh the evidence themselves. So, you have one side talking about statistical models and scientific consensus and the other side talking about jobs and taxes. Jobs and taxes are real and affect me now. The global temperature rising by 4 degrees Celsius is far away and feels abstract. Climate scientists need to start framing the discussion in terms of jobs and taxes or sickness and death if they really want to get the scientific consensus to be a political consensus.

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  30. Coming out of the hottest March ever, for the entire planet, with California experiencing its greatest five year drought period in more than 2,000 years, and the whole Earth climate wobbling with new phenomena appearing everywhere, from massive new upwelling, to the new North Pacific Mode, with its “Ridiculously Resilient Ridge”, it’s hard to get excited with the American consensus that there are sincere denialists out there.

    Sorry, but denial of AGW in the USA is created by vested fossil fuel interests. One should not make them the honor of taking them seriously.

    Instead one should focus on class arguments a la Piketty, and the concept emphasized by Sartre, “Bad Faith”. It is not that those who deny Anthropomorphic Global Warming are sincere, it is that they are lying by encouraging the own mass delusion of their followers.

    AGW denialists are part of a much larger conspiracy against reason, where unreason itself is the object being pursued.

    To add to what Coel was saying:

    Theories of course can be anything. The origin of the word keeps a modern connotation: it simply means a perspective (on a subject). (From “thea” a view, and “horan”, to see.)

    Typically theories are organized in Axiomatic Systems, formal or not, incomplete or not (Gödel showed that all mathematical theories containing arithmetic are incomplete).

    There is a nearly complete scientific theory that finely tunes the recycling of carbon through the biosphere, plate tectonic and volcanoes. It explains the climate in broad strokes over the last two billion years, including snowball Earth. It also explains in very fine detail the climate in the last ten million years.

    The threshold of instability for Antarctica is 450 ppm of CO2. Although we have only 400 ppm of CO2 right now, we have more than 50 ppm of CO2 equivalent in other man-made gases with a greenhouse effect mass per mass up to thousand times greater than CO2.

    And sure enough, Antarctica, even East Antarctica is now unstable (latest news):
    https://patriceayme.wordpress.com/2015/03/20/east-antarctica-melting/

    In some places, the ocean has been already rising up to two inches a year, assuredly drowning denial…

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  31. A very good essay. Some of the nit-picking concerning terminology is technically correct; however, Dr. Torcello is clearly composing an essay for general readership, and is trying to make distinction that are readily grasped without engaging in technicalities. Possibly a mistake, given the readership here, but understandable. And stripped of such issues, the article is making an interesting argument concerning this particular form of denialism. And SciSal was perfectly right in allowing Deadman to post an obvious example of the problem Torcello is addressing. The epistemic problem with any denialism is a complete shutting down of any consideration of evidence or argument that threatens the denialist’s position. Politically, the best to be hoped for is marginalization of the denialist position. That has (largely) worked against Holocaust deniers. Climate change deniers, on the other hand….

    First, let’s face the hard reality concerning politics, climate change, and the American way of life. Accepting some form of climate change (caused by humans, and damaging to humans) – and I do – Americans collectively are not going to change their way of life radically – not on any level. Pockets of Americans will make some efforts at doing what they can for the environment (sometimes seriously, sometimes as mere gesture), and the media will hype recycling and Earth Day, and politicians will position themselves along a spectrum from doing nothing to doing not very much, as long as it doesn’t interfere with commerce and doesn’t cost a lot of money.

    But Americans will continue driving cars (they really don’t care if it runds on gas, electricity or blood); they will continue to demand products packaged in non-biodegradable plastic and cellophane, they will continue to insist on increasing economic growth through new, non-environmentally friendly industries. And they will keep voting for politicians who will continue to do not very much.

    Environmental concern began as a ‘bandwagon’ issue, but it has progressed well into consensus. There’s one problem – it’s probably too late. Climate change denialists are still given ‘equal-time’ by news media, and we still pretend there’s something to debate. There’s too much money and too much power, and too many cultural biases, invested in making only gradual and incremental improvements – if at all.

    That suggests to me that we may need different conversations about our future – not about what we could do to stop climate change from happening, but what we will need to do in order to survive.

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  32. Now, let’s go back in time, to the 1960s: polio, tuberculosis, measles, all coming under control. Nuclear power is considered ‘clean and safe,’ synthetic drugs make people feel good, and a man walks on the moon by the end of the decade. Homes are now filled with electronic toys. Who could possibly doubt that science would continue to make our world a better and happier place? It was in this environment that a few intellectuals began beating the environmental drum. But while their books sell well, they are deemed outsiders in various fields, and completely ignored by by businessmen and politicians.

    In the 1970s, the story takes a radical turn – to the worse. New age popularizers jump on the environmentalist bandwagon; that actually leads to the marginalization of the concerns. A wave of fundamentalist Christian revivalism generates a Religious Right committed to science denial at multiple levels. As the story continues, the benefits of science begin to unravel – the over-use of antibiotics generates germs resistant to them. The over-use of happy drugs leads to corrosive narcotic subcultures. The electronic toys isolate us from our neighbors, tearing little holes in the social fabric. The media realizes that any information they distribute in sound bytes will be believed by someone somewhere, true or not – and this makes information itself a commodity (again, true or not). Meanwhile, the academy begins falling into conflicting camps; rather than the detached disinterest shown to disagreeable colleagues, or the collegial debates that we saw in the ’50s and ’60s. we now have open turf-war, between various disciplines and between various theories within the disciplines. And some of these theories are looking pretty strange – eg., string theory (which can’t be demonstrated empirically), genetic hybridization (which is empirically validated, productive, but raises all kinds of unsettling questions). Even well-read intellectuals are now confronted with ideas they poorly understand, that seem contentious within their fields, that have difficult and not well-understood ethical implications.

    But at the same time, many quite intelligent people discovered the secret of the relationship between science and technology – namely, that there is no necessary relationship. Recent evidence for this is unsettling: Jihadi John the executioner is a former computer programmer, the next in line to be caliph of ISIS apparently formerly taught physics. That’s not expected from scientists; but technicians need not be scientists. That means our cellophane-packaged electronic toys (and new weapons and new pollutants, etc.) are now science independent.

    Intellectuals concerned with the environment rely heavily on the consensus of environmental scientists with access to the information, the theories, the constructs of various ecological trajectories. to argue for realistic responses to an environment undergoing the most radical change in recorded history. But we have to do this in a world where the sciences are now considered suspect by a large portion of the population.

    That is the hard reality in which this conversation takes place.

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  33. John Mashey. What a pleasant surprise. You helped me find work at Bell Labs where I stayed from ’81 to around ’90, and a couple of years ago I also sent you a note when I read of your efforts to fight global warming denialism. I am another(?) obsessed crusader, though tending to think about the whole phenomena of humans being so poor at thinking together, which lead me to Massimo’s books and web forums. Still struggling to be noticed, but I did write an essay “What to make of Judith Curry?” (http://therealtruthproject.blogspot.com/2015/01/what-to-make-of-judith-curry.html) that has had about 1000 views. Nothing like deSmog blog, but I’m constantly trying to hone and publish an effective message.

    What I want to say is that this thing has taken on its own life, and there is at least one very significant factor besides economically interested parties spreading disinformation. It has become Exhibit A for those who constantly harp on the liberal media, academia, and political organizations like the IPCC being a relentless set of liars. This is said to be all about a grand power grab to place major control in the hands of government and worse yet, international groups — a project of the “One Worlders”. It will be very difficult indeed for the right to extricate itself from this commitment, as it will hopefully become too plain to too many of their present supporters that some core of people on their side were the relentless liars projecting their image on others.

    I’d also like to weigh in on this general issue of scientific consensus and what makes science science, with this: “What is Science and What Can We Learn From it About Keeping Our Heads on Straight Generally.” (http://therealtruthproject.blogspot.com/2014/12/machines-invisible-elephants-and.html).

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  34. Deadman said:
    “The assertion that “The relationship between CO2 production and global warming is as well established as the link between smoking and lung cancer” is a silly and seemingly deliberate lie.”

    And the whole post by Deadman was appropriately criticized by Massimo:

    “Deadman,
    Thank you for a perfect example of ignorant and uncivil comment. We let it pass as an example for our readership of just how crazy climate change denialists really are. Thanks for making that point right at the beginning, and so clearly too!”

    I’m not sure this is the same benign meaning of “crazy” as in the previous thread’s reference to Tegmarks MUH!

    However, Hal Morris and Raymond Paul West then said:

    “It has become Exhibit A for those who constantly harp on the liberal media, academia, and political organizations like the IPCC being a relentless set of liars.”
    “Outstanding, dead on description of the intellectual dishonesty of denialist pseudoscience.”

    Seems kind of in the same dismissive spirit as Deadman, no? Indignation that we are right and the other side is just dishonest and liars but without the attendant sanction from our moderators (not yet, anyway). In his book The Righteous Mind (sorry Massimo, my last reference I promise), Haidt claims that it is just such devotion to righteous causes that can blind us to our confirmation bias.

    This is meant to be taken without the slightest bit of snark or derision on my part and I hope it is accepted (though not “accepted”) thusly.

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  35. Regarding Coel’s observation about “theory” at the top of this page, I do agree, and even in light of Dantip’s observation regarding the way that theory and hypothesis were originally intended. If we take theory as something which has so much empirical support that it’s highly accepted in the scientific community, then why would we even be pointing out its validity? But then if we call the ideas we have mere “hypotheses,” in practice this does suggest that they have no merits supporting them at all. If anyone else here worries that others will object to you callingyour original ideas “theory,” I do hope that my own solution is helpful: When it’s practical do I like to refer to my ideas as “models of reality,” — no one can tell me that they aren’t, and that’s really all I meant to suggest anyway. Nevertheless this can only be taken so far. If there could be a term which is more awkward than “scientismist,” perhaps it would be “modeletically”!

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  36. First, it’s “nice” to see that at least one denialist has come out of the closet. It’s appropriate that Deadman rejects global warming since, per his blog, he’s also an Obama birther and other things that also, IMO, fall in the world of “denialism.” (I’ve compared “Jesus denialists,” whom some call “mythicists,” to Obama birthers, so this is a perfect “hook.” http://socraticgadfly.blogspot.com/2015/03/richard-carrier-other-jesus-denialists.html)

    I’ll waste no more time on him, as others have addressed this well.

    I wanted to post that link, because I think this shows that “denialism,” per Massimo having done a post on it, is widespread, as far as sociological issues and more.

    EJ has a good follow-up. “Denialism” is NOT the same as “stupidity,” or “lack of education,” or something similar. Plenty of research already exists to show that presenting more facts will do little to convert most denialists.

    And, I use that word deliberately. IMO, denialism is usually a faith, as in parallel to religious faith. Ergo, denialists are not likely to be converted by rational suasion. So, EJ’s “shunning,” when possible, may be a better approach.

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    Second, I’m in at least a fair amount of agreement with Coel. We do use the word “proof” in the sciences. If Lawrence can think of a better word to convey the idea of scientific proof while separating it from mathematical or formal logic proof, that’s fine, too.

    Dantip adds good thoughts. And per those thoughts, isn’t this another example of a theme of Massimo and this site — this is part of why science still needs philosophy?

    Aravis raises a similar issue. I think, myself, consensuses are derived informally, but, per people who may have more rational questions than denialists, how do we define consensus? In some cases, as akanaja notes, a survey of published professional literature lets us do so.

    That said, I think “bandwagons” are quite rare in various sciences. Let’s take archaeology in the New World.

    The “pre-Clovis” idea has more and more acceptance. I’m not sure it’s at “consensus” yet, but it’s moving that way. That said, there’s no “bandwagon” by any means; without calling them denialists, there are professionals in the field who still resist it. And, accepting pre-Clovis doesn’t have great rewards.

    “Consensus” on controversial topics may parallel Kuhnian revolutions.

    Back to Aravis and Coel, on the issue of “diet.” Given that medicine has lower p-values and other statistical standards than the “hard sciences,” one shouldn’t wonder about conflicting studies on nutrition. Solution? Without becoming physics, medicine should tighten its p-value from 0.05 to 0.03 at minimum, and look at other statistical standards.

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    Third, Niwiyi, the idea there is the same degree of surety on CO2 & climate change as on smoking and lung cancer is separate from how analogous the causal mechanisms are.

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    Fourth, Robin, I would call Maher a showman above all else. And, yes, those who proclaim themselves skeptics but don’t distance themselves from him deserve criticism.

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  37. To be morbidly optimistic, the industrial behemoth is in the process of self destruction.

    The financial, economic circulatory system which enables and propels this economic and technological dynamic is designed, as are all economics systems, for the purpose of rent extraction. So long as it created more value, in terms of broader economic relations, than it extracted, this was not a problem, but success goes to the head.

    Now a combination of the natural desire of too many people to get on this gravy train, the increasing predation of the rest of the economy, the over-reliance on monetary means to extend the business cycle and, most of all, the general corruption permitted in order to sustain the momentum, the system is getting very close to a massive breakdown. Which will likely slow down our planetary destruction, once the nuclear fires subside.

    The deeper philosophic issue here is that when we try to understand causes to the obvious problems, it is like peeling an onion. Each layer is a consequence of some deeper dynamic, whether it is the basic human desire for all the advantages and needs the possession of monetary wealth seemingly conveys, irrespective of the systems and resources on which it is based, down to the fundamental question of whether reality is fundamentally linear, as the modern, western world assumes, or cyclical, as the ancients and certain aspects of eastern cultures view it. Are we really truly marching toward a brighter future, or ultimately just treading water in an eternal present, though cycles of expansion and contraction.

    Or is this too some form of dichotomy, with the cycles necessarily propelled by that linear dynamic, as the feedback loops of multitudes of such activity generates more of an atmospheric effect of storms and calm and pressure fronts and low pressure systems, all being propelled as endless loops of cause and effect.

    Having been getting some sense of the biographies and thus ages of many of the participants on this forum, many of us are not going to be around when the coming storm finally subsides, so the question might be considered as to whether we want to follow the current philosophy of science direction toward ever more exactitude and precision of measurements, or should there be some effort to step back and try and see the bigger picture. Do we want to just leave future generations thinking the epitome of our intellectual endeavors is multiverses and they happened to be left with the collapsed version, or are there other, more useful lessons to leave posterity.

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  38. Hi Dan,

    So to make a weaker claim – perhaps the way I suggested is how we ought to begin using the term [theory].

    I think it’s over-optimistic to think it’d work. Having had a quick scout into the history of the word (back to Aristotle and Pythagoras apparently) it always did refer to “contemplation” as contrasted with observation and experiment, which is indeed how it is used today.

    I still think that the best way to defuse the “only a theory” charge is to reply that “theory” simply refers to the explanation side of things, as oppose to the observational or practical side of things — but doesn’t have any connotation of how proven the explanation is.

    This is in line with actual usage in many fields, and has the advantage of being the dictionary definition. OED: “theory: “A supposition or a system of ideas intended to explain something …”. Further, it means that the popular usage is not wrong, “theory” can refer either to a speculative idea or to a proven one.

    Hi Aravis,

    But the logic behind peer review — and why we require it — *is* essentially the logic of the consensus of relevant experts.

    Though bear in mind that most peer-review for most journals is not about certifying something as right or as a consensus; the threshold for publication is much lower than that, deliberately so since science wants to be open to new ideas and debate. Thus being “peer reviewed” means only “this is of a sufficient standard to be worth reading”. The real peer review then happens after publication.

    In highly politicised areas such as climate change, or areas with big commercial implications, such as drug efficacy, other factors might apply, but thankfully I don’t work in one of those.

    Hi Socratic,

    I’ve compared “Jesus denialists,” whom some call “mythicists,” to …

    My, you are trying to be a tad provocative today! The word “denialist” should be used where the refuting evidence is clear cut. If it were regarding Jesus you’d simply point us to it on your blog link, rather than resorting to less convincing tactics such as: “I know you’re wrong because I’ve got a history degree and you’re not a Biblical scholar but Bart Ehrman is and he knows you’re wrong also” (paraphrasing a bit, but the gist is there).

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  39. WRT the term “denialist”. The question is not whether one can justify the use of the term.

    “The term denier is often associated with those who claim the Holocaust was a hoax. It is considered an insulting term, and since sincere conversations should avoid offense, the argument goes, we should avoid using such terms. Yet denialism is a phenomenon of real academic interest, following recognizable patterns, and, in order to avoid confusions, it should be discussed responsibly with its appropriate label ”

    As the author notes the term has insulting connotations. It doesn’t really matter whether the use of the term for both holocaust denial and climate science denial point to similar types of behavior. One denies what we would call historical fact, the other denies various aspect of climate science theory. There is some similarity. it serves no useful purpose to practice linguistic denial and ignore the pejorative connotation. It serves no useful purpose to deny that the term is offensive to some people, especially those who see it as a form of minimizing the holocaust. The author argues that we can set aside these concerns over the offense the term causes, because there is academic interest in using the term. As an analog here we might say that the “n word” is fine to use in academic discourse, say a linguistic paper on the use of the term, but that we should not use the term outside of this rhetorical situation. In short, the reason given for using the term,
    an academic need for clarity, seems to preclude using it as a label in non academic rhetorical settings.
    It is fine to discuss the phenomena of denial, but that academic use of the term does not license the use of the term in situations where it precludes or destroys civil discourse. Using the word in a responsible manner as the author suggests, needs to be spelled out.

    The issue then isn’t whether one can justify the use of the term in certain situations, as the author notes, there are times and places where the term is required for clarity. However, the issue is the responsible use of the term. I see no argument made that it is responsible or useful or productive to use the term as label for other people in discourse outside of a academic setting. For example, a political setting or a discussion on a blog. In these setting the term has a history of not working. Since our goal is changing people’s minds about taking action on climate change, we should ask ourselves if that term has actually helped. Sure in a journal article about forms of denial the term has a purpose. But beyond that setting I would say that we have zero evidence that the term is effective in changing minds. The term is typically used to demonize people, which isn’t really justified by the academic need for clarity especially when there are substitute terms that are just as clear and have no pejorative connotations.

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  40. Per Occam’s Beard: However, Hal Morris .. then said:

    “It has become Exhibit A for those who constantly harp on the liberal media, academia, and political organizations like the IPCC being a relentless set of liars.”

    and he takes this to be “in the same dismissive spirit as Deadman”

    Whereas “Deadman”s comment seems like a regurgitation of what I see whenever I check out the comments in any right wing site, I was trying to make some very specific points, some of which to my knowledge aren’t being made elsewhere.

    First, I think Deadman is a perfect example of “those who constantly harp on the liberal media, academia, and political organizations like the IPCC being a relentless set of liars.” He is spewing accusations of lying left and right, including against the O.P. Is that what I was doing?

    It has been my main non-earning activity for years to try to understand what I have to call the right wing’s alternative reality. It is extremely well-crafted and thorough, with proactive answers for challenging positions that most of us haven’t thought of yet. It works on multiple levels with the most bald-faced lies being circulated on websites most “liberals” (“” – just because our political language is woefully lacking) have never heard of, or through anonymous emails written to sound like the came from a friend of a friend — a concerned citizen, when their features betray that they are cooked up by people who know they’re carefully crafting lies.

    One strange thing is how self-sustaining it is; i.e. the vociferousness doesn’t diminish as you get further from the ultimate sources of deliberate propaganda. Maybe 20-30% of Americans are absolutely up in arms about the “lying mainstream media” (or lamestream media, or just MSM). I know this in part because I am married to one of the original hard core New York libertarians, a planner of their 1980 presidential convention, which put David Koch in the VP position so they could spend Koch money — in all cases that I know of, candidates can always spend their own money. She has met David Koch (he had a huge number of animal head trophies in his NY apartment). So we are a sort of Mary Matilin/James Carville type couple, and it is one of the major things that drives me to seek a cure for this propaganda disease as I view it.

    Now,my own suggestion about theory is, every scientific orthodoxy starts out rightly labeled a theory and in a sense consistent with everyday use. Why do we continue indefinitely to call it “Einstein’s Theory” or “Theory of Evolution”? Because there is no mechanism, such as a Nicene council, for making it an official orthodoxy, so there are only “theories” which scientists, while willing to stake their careers on them, are unwilling to ever unclassify as theories. Scientists are much too skeptical for that; climate change deniers BTW are insulting scientists by calling themselves skeptics, as if scientists were not.

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  41. >Confusion One: “Consensus has nothing to do with science.”

    Of course consensus matters. Here is my own version of what it brings to science:

    Whether important or mundane, the human has only one way to figure anything out. Here we take what we think we know (evidence), and use this to test models that we aren’t so sure about. If a model continues to remain consistent with what we think we know, it can then be referred as “theory.” If many others find this to be the case as well, it can be referred to as “accepted theory.” (Nevertheless one can’t really “know” anything more than what Rene Descartes observed, or that “I think.”)

    Science didn’t change any of this, though it did bring far more extensive empirical evidence, and most importantly, *a community* which has developed accepted understandings in various disciplines. This community continually hones itself in a competitive spirit, presumably bringing us more accurate understandings. Our most spectacular validation of this institution’s work, seems to be that we’ve now used its understandings to become incredibly powerful.

    (For an associated note from last time, our lack of accepted understandings in the field of philosophy does still trouble me. Massimo, I’m sure that I’ll agree with your coming book which argues that philosophy can’t become science, since as traditionally practiced, I don’t think it can do so as well. Nevertheless I do believe that we both can and must develop a separate kind of philosophy in which it will be possible for consensuses to be reached. Without such a science I suspect that our mental and behavioral sciences will remain quite primitive. The net effect of this deficiency should be that we’ve now become tremendously powerful, but without a corresponding understanding of how to properly use our power.)

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  42. Argument by analogy is fraught and nowhere more so than in discussions of climate change.

    Choosing cancer as an analogue for climate change is immediately emotive. Cancer is frightening and often fatal. It is mysterious and requires specialist care. Global warming is not thought to be fatal, requires action by the public and is not particularly mysterious. Children can and do understand the basic concepts.

    If we must adopt a medical analogy it would be more appropriate to use a condition that is chronic, influenced by our behavior and the treatment of which involves lifelong commitment.

    Obesity might serve, especially as the relation between overeating and over-emission of greenhouse gases is also intuitive. Obese people, even if they are passionate about ameliorating their condition, must eat. Even those most concerned about climate change understand that we will continue to emit greenhouse gases.

    Other candidates for a more appropriate metaphor would include diabetes or alcoholism.

    As for the term denier, James Hoggan of DeSmogBlog was (I think) the first to use it with regards to opponents of his policy preferences for addressing climate change. It quickly spread through the media (starting with Ellen Goodman in 2007) and was explicit in connecting skeptics to skinhead thugs who deny the Holocaust occurred.

    The term denier had a long and useful history. It was corrupted by politically motivated usage. It should be beyond the pale for normal discussion, although as Steve Mosher points out, it will survive in an academic environment.

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  43. As a scientist I have always assumed that the word theory means a more complex system of models and explanations than a hypothesis. So “all of life evolved out of one common ancestor, and the appearance of design in organisms is caused by natural selection” is a theory because it is very broad and complex, but “the red belly of this bird is the result of natural selection as opposed to genetic drift” is a hypothesis. And yes, that means that a theory and a hypothesis can be equally right or wrong, obviously.

    The real question is never whether evolution or AGW are theories but whether they are “right”, and for the latter it appears to boil down to the question whether a massive release of gases known to be heat-trapping will trap heat. I am not a climate expert myself, but the answer looks fairly straightforward at first sight.

    One thing that annoys me particularly about the whole AGW discussion is how people deal with climate models. There are those who may say, “you can’t trust those models; I believe that CO2 has no significant impact on climate”, and then somebody on the other side comes back with something like “we don’t need climate models to project future global warming. We know from past climate change events the planet will warm between about 1.5 and 4.5°C from the increased greenhouse effect of a doubling of atmospheric CO2”.

    What is the problem here? Well, “CO2 has no significant impact” is a climate model. And “for every doubling of CO2 the temperature rises 1.5-4.5C” is also a climate model. They are very simple climate models that don’t include positive and negative feedbacks, ocean dynamics, albedo and suchlike, but they are, indeed, both climate models. I am just terribly annoyed by somebody saying that models don’t matter or can’t be trusted and then immediately proceeding to suggest a model. That term is treated as a mystical magical thing from the ivory tower that is totally divorced from everyday concerns and can thus be safely rejected, but even the opponent of the accepted models is literally incapable of talking about anything quantitative without mathematically modelling it.

    In my eyes there is a much more severe failure of science education here than in the misunderstanding of “theory”.

    SocraticGadfly,

    Ah, but where do you have Jesus’ birth certificate, huh, huh?!?

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  44. The author states:

    “The question regarding a scientific correlation isn’t one of proof, but rather, of statistically relevant patterns. Consequently, the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) translates the 95% confidence level that global warming is primarily caused by human activity as “extremely likely.”

    Where does this confidence level come from? Statistically relevant patterns.. But those statistically relevant patterns are based on two parts – and one is the characterization of “natural variability”.

    As I put forward in Natural Variability and Chaos – Seven – Attribution & Fingerprints Or Shadows?:

    In chapter 10, the executive summary states:

    ..given that observed warming since 1951 is very large compared to climate model estimates of internal variability (Section 10.3.1.1.2), which are assessed to be adequate at global scale (Section 9.5.3.1), we conclude that it is virtually certain [99-100%] that internal variability alone cannot account for the observed global warming since 1951.

    I agree, and I don’t think anyone who understands radiative forcing and climate basics would disagree.

    But chapter 10 also states:

    It is extremely likely [95–100%] that human activities caused more than half of the observed increase in GMST from 1951 to 2010.

    This is a more specific claim with a high (claimed) statistical basis.

    And yet chapter 11 of the same report suggests some skepticism on the statistical certainty expressed in chapter 10:

    The CMIP3 and CMIP5 projections are ensembles of opportunity, and it is explicitly recognized that there are sources of uncertainty not simulated by the models. Evidence of this can be seen by comparing the Rowlands et al. (2012) projections for the A1B scenario, which were obtained using a very large ensemble in which the physics parameterizations were perturbed in a single climate model, with the corresponding raw multi-model CMIP3 projections. The former exhibit a substantially larger likely range than the latter. A pragmatic approach to addressing this issue, which was used in the AR4 and is also used in Chapter 12, is to consider the 5 to 95% CMIP3/5 range as a ‘likely’ rather than ‘very likely’ range.

    Where does that leave the pejorative directed at “skepticism” or “being in denial”?

    Are people who agree with chapter 11 “in denial” with the basic facts? At what point is it “being in denial” to question “statistically relevant patterns”? Chapter 10 is correct? Or chapter 11? They can’t both be.

    In fact, the basis of the statistical certainty of chapter 10 is from papers that themselves either don’t concern themselves explicitly with the reliability of models’ ability to reproduce internal variability, or state that they “assume it to be correct” (don’t prove it or state a basis for assuming it).

    In denial?

    Or asking questions that should be asked?

    And perhaps chapter 10’s “pragmatic approach” should itself be questioned for obvious reasons..

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  45. I normally click through the “handles” of people who have not been here before, and of course did that with ScienceOfDoom. Quite interesting.

    On the “about” page of his site we find:

    A little more specific?
    Some aspects of current “Climate Science” have become more like a faith. The science has been pressed into a political agenda and consequently the spirit of free inquiry has been squashed.

    This, of course, is simply not true. Nothing’s been squashed. Doom, though, wants to play the martyr, it seems. (Doom, you forgot the denialists’ anecdote about Galileo.)

    Then:

    Opinions
    Opinions are often interesting and sometimes entertaining. But what do we learn from opinions? It’s more useful to understand the science behind the subject.

    Doom seems to be implying that the 97 percent consensus is just an “opinion.” Nice try.

    Especially with this:

    And sometimes others put forward points of view or “facts” that are obviously wrong and easily refuted.

    He’s also apparently a regular commenter on Anthony Watt’s WUWT, judging by a comment on his blog.

    His most current blog post seems to contain a mix of snideness (look at all these complicated equations you the AGW “sheeple” can’t possibly understand) …

    And a boatload of logical fallacies:

    Conclusion
    I thought about putting a photo of the Holocaust from a concentration camp next to a few pages of mathematical equations – to make a point. But that would be truly awful.

    That would trivialize the memory of the terrible suffering of millions of people under one of the most evil regimes the world has seen.

    And that, in fact, is my point.

    I can’t find words to describe how I feel about the apologists for the Nazi regime, and those who deny that the holocaust took place. The evidence for the genocide is overwhelming and everyone can understand it.

    On the other hand, those who ascribe the word ‘denier’ to people not in agreement with consensus climate science are trivializing the suffering and deaths of millions of people.

    The polite word for Doom’s final claim is “bovine feces.” Please go away and don’t come back.

    ThomasWFuller seems like the doctor who says we should give in to antivaxxers by omitting half the recommended pediatric vaccination schedule, but say this is a reasonable compromise, not giving in.

    And, congrats, per the first link on your right-hand rail, in getting a press that deliberately looks for books like yours to publish, to publish your book. I think most the people at Stairway are hacks: http://www.stairwaypress.com/

    I’m surprised that, if you’re as anticoal as you indicate on your site (that said, we don’t get anywhere near “all” our energy from coal right now, so that may be a deliberate distraction on your part, a straw man) that they’re publishing you.

    ==

    Alex I have Jesus’ birth certificate in a lock box. Right next to Coel’s.

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  46. Regarding the whole climate change debate, I have to say that there is also some form of hypocrisy in the AGW-proponent camp. They boast about the fact that AGW-denialist camp fail to accept scientific reseach results on AGW because they are either irrational or have greedy vested interests in maintaining status quo. But at the same time, the AGW-proponent camp are self-censoring when faced with the questions “why is there AGW?” and “what to do about it?”.

    It doesn’t take a genius to figure out that we have AGW because (ultimately) there are way too many people on the planet. Maintaining the life (and lifestyle) of 7 billion humans at any given moment requires a certain amount of energy. All currently attainable “clean” energy sources are nowhere near enough to fulfil this demand. And until nuclear fusion becomes technologically feasible, the only real solution to the AGW problem is to reduce the human population on Earth. In spite of the obviousness of all this, there is a taboo about these topics in the AGW-proponent camp, and mentioning the name “Thomas Malthus” is generally met with grave hostility, despite his very clear (even trivial) scientific reasoning, ultimately based on the law of energy conservation. Who is in denial here?

    There is a famous mantra in medical practice — it is better to treat the cause than to treat the symptoms. And in case of AGW — things like identifying sources of CO2 output, blaming the cow farms, hyping about windmills, accusing oil-cartels for conspiracy against clean energy reserach, etc… — is all about the symptoms. Treating the cause amounts to reducing the overall human population. How many AGW-proponents are willing to even open up this topic for discussion?

    Of course, short of a good old nice pandemic high-mortality-rate plague, which would randomly wipe out one third of the overall human population in a course of a few months, the only “humane” solution to the AGW problem (which would treat the cause as opposed to symptoms) would be to enforce the Chinese-like one-child policy, planetwise. One obvious problem is that today’s modern democratic governments are completely ill-suited to implement something like this. What is needed is the old traditional tyranny, which would enact compulsory sterilization of women after giving the first birth. Maintaining the one-child policy for 20-50 years would basically halve the current world population. This would have grave consequences for the world economy, for the human psychology and society, etc… But it would completely neutralize the AGW problem and save our planet!

    Nevertheless, the AGW-proponents are always tiptoeing around these topics, in the name of political correctness. And on the other hand they ridicule the AGW-denialists for… wow… being in denial! If AGW-proponents claim to be scientifically honest and uphold the appropriate research ethics, they should also cleanly and openly spell out what kind of sacrifice the human species must submit to in order to resolve the AGW problem. And how many people actually do this? The very definition of hypocrisy.

    In a personal e-mail exchange that I had with one scientist involved with estimating environmental impact of human life, AGW, etc., the man clearly wrote: the biggest environmentally-friendly contribution that a single human can provide — is to refrain from having children. And in the very next sentence he said that he and other people who openly express this fact are being frowned upon by virtually all other members of all env-friendly organizations around the globe. Again, who is in denial here?

    Pot calling the kettle black.

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  47. I hadn’t realised that Massimo and Julia Galef had touched on a lot of this in the Rationally Speaking podcast and blog back in 2010. Sorry if I was raising issues that had already had a good airing.

    I‘ve realised that some people might find my final question odd; isn’t that the existing role of philosophy, of promoting the public understanding of science, and of teaching critical thinking?

    Of course that’s true to a large extent. I suppose I was wondering whether and how those fields could be brought together to provide some popular guides to “how to think about scientific and technological disputes for the layperson”. Maybe I’m just offering Massimo a chance to plug his book “Nonsense on Stilts”, alongside books like Schick and Vaughn’s “How to Think about Weird Things”. Alongside that, though, I suppose I’m thinking about something more tool-like; a frame work of heuristics to support the non-expert in making judgements, or perhaps in realising when they are not qualified to do so, and what to do in that situation.

    On critical thinking, I agree with Kevin deLaplante’s point that it “can’t be taught”; or at least not without providing a good broad general education alongside it. He also mentions the number of denialists and conspiracy theorists who congratulate him on his efforts to help the “sheeple” break out of the delusions imposed by “them”, whoever they might be. As Massimo mentioned in his previous article on denialism; denialists learn to turn the se weapons back on their critics, and while it’s an obligation to get facts right, that isn’t enough.

    However, I’m not looking for a magic fix against dogmatic refusal to see; I’m thinking about those who are thinking and reasoning for themselves, but want to know how better to judge for themselves. I suppose I’m taking up Arivis’s point, and asking whether there are really methods or approaches that will help us hit the valid consensuses and miss the bandwagons more often

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